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M/T Ida Knudsen
Updated Oct. 31-2011

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Manager: Knut Knutsen O.A.S., Haugesund
Tonnage:
8913 gt, 5275 net, 14 030 tdwt.
Signal Letters: LCOR

Delivered in Oct.-1925 from A/S Nakskovs Skibsværft, Nakskov, Denmark as Ida Knudsen to D/S A/S Jeanette Skinner, Haugesund (Knut Knutsen O.A.S.). This was Knutsen's first tanker and Haugesund's largest ship at the time of delivery. 465.7' x 62.1' x 37.3', 2 x 6 cyl. 4T EV B & W, 3400 bhp, 11 knots, 2 propellers.

Captain: Kristoffer Sæbø

Her voyages are listed on this original document received from the National Archives of Norway.

Please compare the above voyages with Arnold Hague's Voyage Record below.

Voyage Record
From May-1940 to July-1941:

(Received from Don Kindell - His source: The late Arnold Hague's database).

Follow the convoy links provided for more information on each.

Departure From To Arrival Convoy Remarks
1940 May 11 Halifax Bermuda May 14 Independent
May 18 Bermuda Curacao May 23 Independent
May 26 Curacao Dakar June 10 Independent
June 13 Dakar Capetown June 28 Independent
June 20* Capetown Durban July 5 Independent *Archive document gives departure June 30
July 10 Durban Abadan July 28 Independent
July 30 Abadan Karachi Aug. 12 Independent
Aug. 13 Karachi Capetown Sept. 6 Independent
Sept. 27 Capetown Port Elizabeth Sept. 30 Independent
Nov. 7 Port Elizabeth Durban Nov. 11 Independent
Nov. 11 Durban Abadan Nov. 30 Independent
Dec. 2 Abadan Capetown Dec. 28 Independent
1941 Jan. 1 Capetown Port Elizabeth Jan. 4 Independent
Jan. 18 Port Elizabeth Durban Jan. 22 Independent
Jan. 31 Durban Abadan Febr. 19 Independent
Febr. 22 Abadan Capetown March 16 Independent
March 18 Capetown Freetown March 31 Independent
Apr. 8 Freetown Curacao Apr. 22 Independent
Apr. 25 Curacao Halifax May 4 Independent
May 6 Halifax Clyde May 23 HX 125 B
June 8 Clyde OB 331 For Trinidad.
Dispersed June 19.
Convoy available at OB 331
(external link)
June 19 Dispersed from OB 331 Trinidad June 29 Independent
July 4 Trinidad Independent Sunk - See "Final Fate" below


 Some Convoy Voyages: 

Judging from the archive document, it looks like Ida Knudsen barely got out of Norway in time to avoid ending up in German control; she's said to have arrived Halifax from Stavanger, Norway on Apr. 15-1940 (Norway was invaded Apr. 9). Her final destination was Curacao, where she arrived, via Bermuda, on May 23. From Curacao, she headed to Dakar a few days later, then on to Cape Town and Durban.

She was also at Curacao from Apr. 22 till Apr. 25-1941, then headed to Halifax, where she arrived on May 4, joining Convoy HX 125 B 2 days later. Cruising order/Commodore's notes are also available for this convoy. She was bound for Greenock, arriving May 23.

She left Greenock again early in June for Trinidad with arrival June June 29. She's listed, together with the Norwegian Barbro, Elg, Hardanger, Havsten, Hellen, Solfonn, Torfinn Jarl, Troubadour and Vivi, in Convoy OB 331, which had originated in Liverpool on June 8 and dispersed on the 19th - ref. external link provided within the Voyage Record.

 Final Fate - 1941: 

Ida Knudsen departed Port of Spain again alone on July 5-1941 (or July 4, depending on time zone) for Gibraltar with a cargo of over 13 000 tons fuel oil. While in Trinidad they had been instructed to meet the escort on July 21 in 34 30N 15 00W, and assuming that the escort would be there at the fixed time, Ida Knudsen sailed in wide zig-zags so as not to arrive at the meeting place too early. In Gibraltar at this time only two armed trawlers were available, and since no information on Ida Knudsen's position had been received the trawlers were sent to another ship in need of escort, so that when she reached the meeting place no escort was to be seen. The captain then decided to sail on, following the predetermined course in the hope of meeting the escort on her way, but was hit that same night by several torpedoes from the Italian submarine Luigi Torelli (de Giacomo), off Cape Blanca, about 70 n. miles northeast of Madeira. A report dated Port Lyautey Aug. 4-1941 and signed by the 1st mate gives the position as approx. 34 10N 14 45W, while J. Rohwer gives 34 34N 13 14W.

They had heard the hum of engines on the port side at 19:50 that night. The hope was that what they heard was the escort approaching, but to be on the safe side course was altered so that the sound was behind them, and the crew alerted (a 4" gun had been mounted aft while in Glasgow the month before). The first torpedo, which was spotted on the port quarter at around 20:10, hit near the pump room, sending oil high above the after part of the ship. 2 more torpedoes were seen, 1 passing in front, the other came from ahead and went parallel with the ship.

An SOS was sent out by the 2nd mate, the captain ordered everyone to the lifeboats, while also ordering full stop, but the engine continued to run, resulting in problems while launching the starboard amidships boat and 4 men ended up in the water. The other 3 boats were successfully launched, and no sooner were they on the water and clear of the ship's side than another torpedo hit abaft the forecastle (starboard side) and shortly afterwards another one amidships.

They tried to search for the 4 in the water but this was hampered by the sub constantly circling around, sometimes submerged, other times above the water; in fact, the captain was so close that he was able to correctly identify the sub as one of the Italian Tazzoli class. A last torpedo was sent into the engine room of Ida Knudsen at 21:00 which finally sank her and the sub disappeared (some felt there must have been 2 subs).

Two of the lifeboats with the captain and 14 of his men managed to stay together until they were rescued by the Portugese trawler Altair on July 25 (position 33 24N 09 48W is given in report) and landed in Las Palmas on July 27. They subsequently travelled to Freetown, later to the U.K., except Rudolf Otten who went to Cape Town, Cornelius Timmermann and John Amzan who went to Curacao, and Arne Hauge and Anders Stendal who were signed on Lidvard which had just escaped from Dakar.

The 1st Mate's boat with 17 men landed at Agadir, Morocco on July 28. From there they were sent to Port Lyautey where they were interned on board M/S Nyhorn. 1 of them, Egil Strømmen escaped with others from Nyhorn, in fact, he was 1 of the 5 who escaped with Captain Messel of my father's ship D/S Ringulv, reaching Gibraltar in the canvas boat Norge, which had secretly been built in the hold of Nyhorn in Apr./May-1942. The rest were interned, along with the crew from D/S Vigør, in Sidi el Ayadir, where 2 later died (see * below). 2 were given a travel permit to Sweden and Sierra Leone respectively, 2 were freed and signed on Nyhorn (mostly French crew by then?) and the rest stayed interned until the allied invasion of North Africa in Nov.-1942.

The 4 who had ended up in the water from the starboard amidhsips boat drowned, but another 2 from that boat, Able Seaman Claassens and Ordinary Seaman Meland, had managed to hold on, bail it, and landed in Tenerife on Aug. 9-1941 (possibly picked up and landed by a British vessel?). They later travelled to Liverpool. Torkel Bjørnevik, who had also been in this boat, had managed to climb back on board Ida Knudsen with the help of the ladder and later joined some others in the motorboat (the captain's boat).

Of the 5 casualties named in the crew list below, the only one who had not been in the starboard amidships lifeboat was 4th Engineer Ellingsen. Nobody seemed to know how he had lost his life, but his passport and some other belongings were found in the starboard aft lifeboat so it was believed he might have gone overboard from that boat when it was launched. Also, 1 of the crew members had seen him in the vicinity of the boat.

Maritime hearings were held in London on Sept. 11-1941 with the captain appearing (the others had not arrived England from Freetown yet).

Crew List:
* Denotes those who were in the 1st mate's boat and landed in Morocco
C = Those who were in the captain's boat (motorboat)
* Denotes the 2 who appear to have died while interned at Sidi el Ayadir
(all other survivors were in the starboard aft boat)

Survivors
Captain
Kristoffer Sæbø C
1st Mate
Mons Troland*
2nd Mate
Sigurd A. Severinsen C
3rd Mate
Kåre Henriksen C
Carpenter
Cornelius Timmermann C
(Dutch)
Boatswain
Bjarne Helle*
Able Seaman
Heiberg Ingemann Isaksen**
Able Seaman
Torkel Bjørnevik C
Able Seaman
Jan Claassens
(Durban, S. Africa)
Ordinary Seaman
Knut Kallevik*
Ordinary Seaman
Harry Eklund Kristiansen*
Ordinary Seaman
Olaf Nysether*
Ordinary Seaman
Arne Hauge
Ordinary Seaman
Anders Stendal
Ordinary Seaman
Oddmund Meland
2nd Engineer
Gunnar Solbakk*
3rd Engineer
Bjarne Thorsen*
Assistant
Rudolf Otten
Electrician
Bertel Falkeide*
Mechanic
Jacob Førland*
Mechanic
Ingvald Stolaas
Mechanic
Henry Hvidsten
Pump Man
Leonard Gjeldstad*
Oiler
Oskar Førland*
Oiler
Egil Strømmen*
Oiler
Oskar Arnold Følstad**
Oiler
Odd Karlsson*
Oiler
Trygve Bendisen
Engine Boy
Trygve Ausgaard Sunde
Cook
Bernard Bang*
Galley Boy
Torleif Johannessen
Mess Boy
George Mullen*
(British)
Mess Boy
John Amzan
(Nationality?)
Casualties:

Able Seaman/Gunner
Leif Sandvik

Ordinary Seaman
Arne Julius Okman

1st Engineer
Svein Rørvik

4th Engineer
Harald Ellingsen

Steward
John Vaage

Related external links:
Stavern Memorial commemorations - * In addition to the 5 casualties named above, Heiberg Ingemann Isaksen and Oskar Arnold Følstad are commemorated at this memorial for seamen in Stavern and must be the 2 who died in internment. In fact, I checked these names in the book "Nordmenn i fangenskap" by Kristian Ottosen and here's what it says:

Heiberg Ingemann Isaksen - arrested July 28-1941 (meaning he was interned on that date), transferred Agadir Sept. 11-1941, transferred Hospital Casablanca, died Nov. 22-1941.
Oskar Arnold Følstad - arrested July 28-1941, transferred to a French prison camp on that same date, transferred Casablanca, died Dec. 8-1941.
I'd be happy to look up any of the men denoted * if a relative is looking for more details. My contact address is at the bottom of this page.

Luigi Torelli

Italy at War

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Knut Knutsen O. A. S. later had another ship by the same name, delivered from Rosenberg Mekaniske Verksted, Stavanger on Jan. 29 1958 as Ida Knudsen for D/S A/S Jeanette Skinner, Haugesund, 20 592 gt. Collided off Antwerp on Jan. 19-1964 with the DDR registered Kap Arcona. Ida Knudsen had a large hole in her bow, while Kap Arcona sank. A few years later, on Febr. 28-1969 Ida Knudsen was heavily damaged off the coast of Portugal by an earhtquake. Condemned and sold in Apr. 1969 "as is" to Achilles Halcovessis, Piræus. Repaired and back in service as Petros Hajikyriakos of Piræus. Sold in 1979 to Nissho-Iwai Co. Ltd., Tokyo for breaking up. Arrived Pusan Aug. 23 but sold again to Taiwan and delivered to Tung Ho Steel Enterprise Co., Kaohsiung Sept. 5. ("Våre motorskip").

The text on this page was compiled with the help of: "Nortraships flåte", J. R. Hegland, "Våre gamle skip", Leif M. Bjørkelund & E. H. Kongshavn, "Sjøforklaringer fra 2. verdenskrig", Norwegian Maritime Museum, Volume I, and misc. (ref. My sources).

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