Posted by Guillermo Fernandez Guille_Fdez_59@Hotmail.com on July 14, 2001.

Hi friends
The ships called "Fehnschiffe" in the Black Sea, what types are,how many, tons, weapons, crew, dimentions are them ???.,Thanks

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Posted by Visje visje@tref.nl on July 17.

What were Fehnschiffe exactly ?
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Posted by Guillermo Fernandez on July 17.

Only know are ship send at Black Sea but I dont what type of ship was

You know the names of german minelayer,Ship-R
sperrbrecher,in Black Sea tons,dimentions,artillery,Ex names
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Posted by Visje on July 18.

I have the names and tonnages of a number of Dutch coasters sent to the Black Sea. Perhaps you're interested ?
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Posted by Axel van Eesbeeck gemyala@netcologne.de on July 18.

Hallo Visje

Answer from a different direction
Yes i'm very interested.

Best regards
Axel
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Posted by Visje on July 18.

Ok, here we go:

Anna (built 1927, 172 gt, sailed as V-1213, V-1209, V-1004, V-1212 and V-1004)

Adriana (built 1925, 145 gt). Sailed for germans as FR A-21 (ex-HF-25). Captured by Yugoslav partizanes on October 9 1943 in Adriatic (but she apparently did service in the Black Sea also

Antilope (built 1924, 135 gt). Stranded February 25 1944 near Costanza as Netzleger XV. Abandoned March 5 1944. THe ship had been sold to Germany July 1943 and commissioned as netlayer on February 15 1944.

Helios (built 1931, 305 gt). Lost April 1 1945 in service of Kriegsmarine near Heimsburg on the Donau (Danube) as Stabschiff beim Donauflottille, after being requisitioned on May 4 1942. (another source mentions that she served on the Black Sea)

Immanuel: (built 1928, 143 gt). Mined July 29 1943 in Black Sea near Kertsch, after being requisitioned on April 24 1942.

Irene: (built 1930, 120 gt). Lost in Black Sea, after being requisitioned on April 21 1942.

Mercurius: (built 1929, 170 gt). Lost in Black Sea as D-24-W after being requisitioned on April 10 1942.

Novatie: (built 1929, 184 gt) Lost in Black Sea after being requisitioned on April 18 1942. Also served as accommodation ship on Donau in 1943.

Orion: Lost in the black sea as Netztender 37 after being requisitioned on April 17 1943. Built 1931, 132 gt.

Axel, you may be interested in this link

[www.nautiek.nl]

Regards,

Visje
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Posted by Axel van Eesbeeck on July 18.

Hallo Visje

Thanks for the listing. I know the link, but i don't understand everything because of the dutch language and i don't want to make mistakes with my bad translation.

For example: What is a "logementsschip" in english or german ?

But the link helped me a lot in the past. The only thing i was missing was the information about the typ of ship described there.

P.S. A new very good link (in german)
[www.wlb-stuttgart.de]

If you not already know it, maybe it helps by your research work.

Best regards
Axel
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Posted by Visje on July 18.

Hi Axel,

logementsschip means "accommodation ship", basically. Thanks for the link, I will certainly check it out ;)
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Posted by Hans Jehee j.j.m.jehee@hccnet.nl on July 18.

Fehnschiff is translated as “moor-ship”. A vessel intended for use in de moors in north-west part of Germany.
De following information is mainly from Die deutsche Kriegsschiffe volume 8/2 (published 1993). These vessels were rather small, average 20/25 meter long and 4/4,4 meters wide. This is because they had to fit in the canals in the moors of north-west Germany. About 70 were requisitioned for use on the Dnepr in Russia. In the end only 16 were transferred through the Ludwigwigkanal (connecting the Rhine with the Donau) and the Donau to the Black Sea. In the Black Sea there were with the Seetransportstelle Braila). Some were later transferred to the Aegean Sea.
Additional information can be found in from Die deutsche Kriegsschiffe volume 8/2 page 440/444

Greetings, Hans